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		<title>Platform Sixteen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 11:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norman Geras</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Norman Geras responds to Lindsey Hilsum&#8217;s change-of-mind over Iraq in The New Statesman. In the issue of the New Statesman for 11 September 2006 (one free hit), Lindsey Hilsum explains why she could not oppose the Iraq war, went along with it despite misgivings, but now thinks she was wrong to do so. Key to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/09/platform_sixtee.html">Norman Geras responds</a> to Lindsey Hilsum&#8217;s change-of-mind over Iraq in <cite>The New Statesman</cite>.</strong><br />
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<p>In the issue of the New Statesman for 11 September 2006 (one free hit), <a href="http://www.channel4.com/news/about_us/meet-the-team/lindsey-hilsum.html">Lindsey Hilsum</a> explains why she could not oppose the Iraq war, went along with it despite misgivings, but now thinks she was wrong to do so. Key to what she says was an Iraqi friend, Mohammed Fatnan, whose hopes, and whose desperation for change &#8216;even if it meant war&#8217;, she shared in some measure. He was kidnapped by Sunni insurgents in December 2004 and has not been seen since. The story she tells of Mohammed Fatnan&#8217;s fate she tells as being part of something wider, of the present state of Iraq and the &#8216;cruel chaos&#8217; that has overtaken it. With this there can be no quarrel. But Hilsum&#8217;s article also has another purpose. <a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/200609110027">She writes</a>:<br />
<blockquote>Here in Britain, the pro- and anti-war lobbies continue their arguments, tired and shrill. Everyone wants to prove that they were right. I was not right. I was swayed by Mohammed, who wanted the war, and was destroyed in its&nbsp;wake.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not right, and her arguments no doubt not tired or shrill either. Hilsum is, nonetheless, sufficiently possessed now of the rightness of her abandoned wrongness, so to put it, as to be rather free and easy in how she lays about her. Here&#8217;s the central passage:<br />
<blockquote>From the beginning, the debate in this country has been about British politics and prejudice, largely ignoring Iraqis, as if they were bit players in their own tragedy. The pro-war lobby&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;including the Euston Manifesto Group, heavily influenced by the Kurds, who have a different agenda from other Iraqis&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;refuses to acknowledge the disaster war has created. Even as Sunni insurgents slaughter Shias, and Shia ministry of interior thugs terrorise Sunnis, they claim that democracy is nascent. To them, anyone who states the obvious&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;that Iraq is a violent mess where life for ordinary people is worse than before&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;must be a covert apologist for Saddam. As Winston Churchill said during the Second World War: &#8220;However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the&nbsp;results.&#8221;</p>
<p>Their refusal to acknowledge the truth is as sickening as the cynical reasoning of the anti-war lobby, which opposed the war because its members hate America, not because they thought it would harm Iraqis. Most Iraqis I know agreed with Mohammed that there was no other way to get rid of Saddam, and that, however rough it was, war would in the long run bring a better life. They have been proved wrong, but the anti-war mob infantilises Iraqis, allowing them no responsibility for their own fate. They blame the US for all killings in Iraq, as if the murderous bands who detonate car bombs in Baghdad and Baquba were not responsible for their own&nbsp;actions.</p></blockquote>
<p>As it&#8217;s not something I do very often, I&#8217;ll start here by defending &#8216;the anti-war lobby&#8217;. Lindsey Hilsum does what supporters of the Euston Manifesto are widely accused (but without justification) of doing: she simplifies opposition to the war as if all of it was based on hatred of America rather than on any concern for the well-being of Iraqis. But while this properly characterizes part of the anti-war movement, it is a travesty if applied to the whole. There were people (including, it may be said for the nth time, amongst supporters of the Euston Manifesto) who opposed the war not out of knee-jerk anti-Americanism, or &#8216;anti-imperialism&#8217;, but because of their estimate&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;or merely worry&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;that the consequences of the war would be all-round&nbsp;negative.</p>
<p>I turn to what she says about the Euston Manifesto Group. Hilsum relies on an ambiguity in her statement &#8216;they claim that democracy is nascent&#8217;. <a href="http://eustonmanifesto.org/the-euston-manifesto/">The Euston Manifesto</a> says that once Saddam&#8217;s regime had been overthrown&#8230;<br />
<blockquote>&#8230;the proper concern of genuine liberals and members of the Left should have been the battle to put in place in Iraq a democratic political order and to rebuild the country&#8217;s infrastructure, to create after decades of the most brutal oppression a life for Iraqis which those living in democratic countries take for&nbsp;granted&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>If &#8216;nascent&#8217; is taken in this spirit&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;in the spirit of the <em>possibility</em> of democracy being born in Iraq, of a battle for, an effort at, transformation and democratization&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;then yes, pro-war Eustonians might reasonably be said to regard democracy as nascent. We have argued that there was a project there to be supported, against those forces trying to defeat it&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;a project for which there was evidence from two elections that millions of Iraqis themselves supported. But Hilsum&#8217;s meaning for &#8216;nascent&#8217; would seem to be the more closed one, in support of her unshrill but condemnatory purpose: namely, that we Eustonians think democracy is being born born regardless of the forces ranged against it and as though it were a foregone conclusion. And that is pure invention. As also is her allegation that supporters of the war can&#8217;t see and won&#8217;t acknowledge that, in her words, Iraq is &#8216;a violent mess&#8217;; and that for us anyone who says so must be an apologist for Saddam. I repeat, pure invention. Iraq <em>is</em> now a violent mess, if this is how you want to put it; and there is no foregone conclusion about the democratic project which those of us who supported the war were supporting in doing so. This is not something that&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;speaking for myself&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;I&#8217;ve just got round to today. You can read <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2004/05/reply_to_tim_bu.html">here</a> and <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2004/05/reply_to_dave_g.html">here</a> and <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2005/11/declining_the_i.html">here</a> to see the point made perfectly&nbsp;clearly. </p>
<p>If the whole democratic project does come to grief in Iraq, then the hopes of those of us who supported the war will have been defeated, and the estimates of anyone who did think the outcome was a foregone conclusion confounded. This doesn&#8217;t show that, turning the clock back to late 2002/early 2003, the decision to support the war was self-evidently wrong. That decision was made on the basis of information available at the time, of estimates of probable consequences both ways&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;with war and without it&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;and of ignorance about certain things that hadn&#8217;t yet happened; not on the basis of 20-20 hindsight. Those like Lindsey Hilsum who now wax righteously indignant after changing their mind about the war face the small difficulty that they themselves, on the basis of what they knew and didn&#8217;t know back then, made precisely the same call as those at whom they are so&nbsp;indignant.</p>
<p>What is it that Hilsum takes to license such self-righteousness? I don&#8217;t know her, so I don&#8217;t know. But one possibility is that, having had Iraqi friends like Mohammed Fatnan, friends she knows she cared and cares about, she imagines that this puts her in a different category from the rest of us: you know, those both pro- and anti-war who ignored the needs and interests of Iraqis to focus on &#8216;British politics and prejudice&#8217;. What an unlovely moral conceit. &#8216;Only I (or some small &#8216;we&#8217;) care about the suffering of Iraqis; all you others&#8230; just shrill and callous.&#8217; Give yourself that satisfaction if you will, but it isn&#8217;t how the world goes. Others (than Lindsey Hilsum) who supported the war also had Iraqi friends or acquaintances. And still others, although they didn&#8217;t, were moved by the same considerations as she was&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;&#8216;swayed by Mohammed, who wanted the war&#8217;, thinking just like &#8216;most&#8217; of the Iraqis Hilsum knew &#8216;that there was no other way to get rid of Saddam, and that, however rough it was, war would in the long run bring a better life.&#8217; And others than Hilsum have been every bit as dismayed and upset and troubled as she is by the current tragic sufferings of the Iraqi&nbsp;people. </p>
<p>It may be thought that self-righteousness only afflicts those who remain resolute in a single unchanging view. Never, though, underestimate the capacity for self-righteousness of the recently &#8216;saved&#8217;. (Thanks:&nbsp;GK.)</p>
<p><span class="note"><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/">Norman Geras</a> is Professor Emeritus of Government at the <a href="http://www.manchester.ac.uk/">University of&nbsp;Manchester</a></span></p>
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		<title>Platform Fifteen</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jun 2006 12:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Shalom Lappin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shalom Lappin answers the same article on the questions of globalization and equality. Equality and Globalization: A Reply to Beetham and&#160;Devine In their article &#8216;Left on the Euston Platform&#8217; (from Red Pepper, June 8, 2006), David Beetham and Pat Devine consider the Euston Manifesto&#8217;s commitment to social egalitarianism and broad economic equality, and they find [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/06/platform_fiftee.html">Shalom Lappin answers</a> <a href="http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=41&amp;ItemID=10387">the same article</a> on the questions of globalization and equality.</strong><br />
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<h4>Equality and Globalization: A Reply to Beetham and&nbsp;Devine</strong></h4>
<p>In their article &#8216;<a href="http://www.zmag.org/content/print_article.cfm?itemID=10387&#038;sectionID=41">Left on the Euston Platform</a>&#8217; (from <em>Red Pepper</em>, June 8, 2006), David Beetham and Pat Devine consider the Euston Manifesto&#8217;s commitment to social egalitarianism and broad economic equality, and they find it wanting. They criticize the Manifesto&#8217;s position on these issues as&nbsp;follows.</p>
<blockquote><p>This just will not do. The dynamic of global capitalism, with US corporations at its centre, is the main generator of global inequality and environmental&nbsp;degradation&#8230;</p>
<p>The International Monetary Fund and the World Bank, dominated by the US, together with the World Trade Organisation, have imposed a ruthless regime of privatisation and deregulation on developing countries, creating untold inequality, poverty and human misery. Supported by British governments, they have also sought to impose the same Anglo-Saxon neoliberalism on Europe&#8217;s social market&nbsp;economies.</p></blockquote>
<p>In fact, <a href="http://eustonmanifesto.org/the-euston-manifesto/">the Euston Manifesto</a> addresses these issues very clearly. The relevant sentences appear at B 4 and B&nbsp;5.</p>
<blockquote><p>Democratic trade unions are the bedrock organizations for the defence of workers&#8217; interests and are one of the most important forces for human rights, democracy-promotion and egalitarian internationalism. Labour rights are human rights. The universal adoption of the International Labour Organization Conventions - now routinely ignored by governments across the globe - is a priority for&nbsp;us. </p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>The benefits of large-scale development through the expansion of global trade ought to be distributed as widely as possible in order to serve the social and economic interests of workers, farmers and consumers in all countries. Globalization must mean global social integration and a commitment to social justice. We support radical reform of the major institutions of global economic governance (World Trade Organization, International Monetary Fund, World Bank) to achieve these goals, and we support fair trade, more aid, debt cancellation and the campaign to Make Poverty&nbsp;History.</p></blockquote>
<p>We have expanded on these ideas in subsequent statements. In my speech at the manifesto launch, &#8216;<a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/05/towards_a_renew.html">Towards a Renewal of the Democratic Left</a>&#8217;, I suggest a strategy for reformulating the social-democratic project in global terms in order to deal with the corrosive effects of the juggernaut of neo-liberal economic policies in the context of globalized markets. This strategy involves two main elements. The first is the development of strong democratic labour unions in the emerging low-wage industries of the developing world as a way of responding to the exploitation of workers in these countries. If these unions become effective agents of collective bargaining, they will raise the standard of living of wage earners in the developing world and promote the convergence of economic conditions in these countries and the West. This will alleviate poverty and reduce the conflict of interest between workers in the developed and the developing world, and so facilitate the emergence of genuinely international unions able to constrain the power of&nbsp;multi-nationals.</p>
<p>The second instrument for restraining capital in integrated global markets is provided by reconstructing free trade agreements to impose conditions of social investment, fair labour practices, equitable corporate taxation and strict environmental restraint on companies that enter new markets. These conditions will serve to reverse the rampaging privatization that current free trade agreements&nbsp;promote. </p>
<p>The objective of this approach is to effectively transpose the policies of a socialized market and a strong labour movement into international terms that can overcome the current decline of the welfare state that the new mobility of capital has produced. In order for this approach to succeed it is necessary to establish industrial democracy in the developing world and to substitute social-democratic governments for corporate interests as the prime agents responsible for regulating the institutions of the global&nbsp;market. </p>
<p>My speech at the Euston Manifesto launch was based on two articles in <em>Dissent</em>, &#8216;<a href="http://www.dissentmagazine.org/article/?article=165">How Class Disappeared from Western Politics</a>&#8217; (Winter, 2006) and &#8216;New Labour and the Destruction of Social Democracy&#8217; (Fall,&nbsp;2000). </p>
<p>Alan Johnson has <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/04/platform_five_b.html">replied at length</a> along similar lines to earlier versions of the Beetham and Devine criticism of the manifesto on issues of global&nbsp;capitalism.</p>
<p>We have, then, presented a very clearly defined position on global capitalism and neo-liberalism. It calls for empowering workers through strong unions to deal with capital within global markets. We have also called for a radical revision of the institutions regulating international markets, in order to turn them into instruments of social investment rather than simply means of promoting global trade and&nbsp;competition. </p>
<p>By contrast, Beetham and Devine suggest no alternative to the onslaught of neo-liberalism, but simply repeat well-worn slogans condemning American imperialism. In fact, they systematically misdescribe the serious problems posed by the current phase of global capitalism by attempting to reduce it to the projection of American political and military&nbsp;power. </p>
<p>It is certainly the case that the United States has often pursued deeply destructive foreign policies in order to advance its narrow economic concerns (as, without exception, has every major power, as well as not a small number of minor ones). However, the simplistic view that Beetham and Devine suggest misses one of the most important features of integrated global markets and the companies which operate within them. In general, these companies owe no loyalties to any country or constituency beyond their shareholders, who are generally large financial agencies. In the emerging global market companies are able to subordinate national interests to their pursuit of profit, and so they cannot be effectively regulated by national&nbsp;governments.</p>
<p>Beetham and Devine also miss one of the most dangerous economic consequences of the Bush administration&#8217;s disastrous tenure, which is its penchant for running up an enormous trade deficit and a massive national debt through unrestrained borrowing and credit. Most of this debt is held by foreign creditors, particularly China and Japan. This situation leaves the United States entirely exposed to a sudden withdrawal of credit, which would quickly undermine the US dollar and destabilize the international economy. In part, this situation has been allowed to emerge precisely because the multinational corporations that have moved production to low-wage economies like China so as to reduce prices and expand sales in American markets, and the financial institutions that provide the credit which continues to fuel unrestrained American consumer spending, represent only their own economic interests rather than those of the United States or any other country. The investors and managements of these companies are genuinely&nbsp;global. </p>
<p>Similarly, the oil industry and the oil-producing countries that keep the United States (and the rest of the world) ruinously addicted to high consumption of fossil fuels, with all of the unfortunate economic and environmental results that this involves, constitute a cartel of global proportions that systematically works against American and Western strategic and economic interests. In promoting international corporate and financial concerns the Bush administration has frequently acted against those of the United&nbsp;States. </p>
<p>Large parts of the left that adhere to Beetham and Devine&#8217;s understanding of the world endorse the anti-globalization movement and promote protectionist policies. These policies would close off the expansion of development that is needed to alleviate poverty in the third world, while serving very narrow interests in the West. So, for example, the EU sustains a very high level of subsidy for local produce, and this effectively imposes a substantial tariff on agricultural imports that prevents third world farmers from exporting their crops to European countries. These tariffs violate the principles advocated by the Fair Trade movement and protect agro-business within the EU. But not a small number of anti-globalization enthusiasts support protectionism of this kind under the guise of local control of&nbsp;resources. </p>
<p>Globalization poses a major challenge to the democratic left. In order to meet it, we must devise effective ways of socializing new integrated world markets. Retreating to the tired slogans of past ideological struggles will in no way advance this cause. Instead we must seek a creative redefinition of a progressive social egalitarian agenda within the new conditions that the current phase of global capitalism is generating. The Euston Manifesto presents a first tentative attempt to imagine the outlines of such an internationalist social&nbsp;democracy.</p>
<p><span class="note"><a href="http://www.dcs.kcl.ac.uk/staff/lappin/">Shalom Lappin</a> is Professor of Computational Linguistics in <a href="http://www.kcl.ac.uk/schools/humanities/depts/philosophy/">the Department of Philosophy, King&#8217;s College,&nbsp;London</a></span></p>
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		<dc:creator>Norman Geras</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[In his response to a piece in Red Pepper&#8201;&#8212;&#8201;online here&#8201;&#8212;&#8201;Norman Geras explains, yet again, that the EM is not a &#8220;pro-war&#8221;&#160;document. In the latest issue of Red Pepper, there is a critique of the Euston Manifesto by David Beetham and Pat Devine&#8201;&#8212;&#8201;both old friends of mine. Their article is also available online at ZNet. I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>In his response to a piece in <a href="http://www.redpepper.org.uk/">Red Pepper</a>&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;online <a href="http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=41&amp;ItemID=10387">here</a>&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;<a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/06/platform_fourte.html">Norman Geras explains</a>, yet again, that the EM is not a &#8220;pro-war&#8221;&nbsp;document.</strong></p>
<p>In the latest issue of <a href="http://www.redpepper.org.uk/">Red Pepper</a>, there is a critique of the <a href="http://eustonmanifesto.org/the-euston-manifesto/">Euston Manifesto</a> by David Beetham and Pat Devine&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;both old friends of mine. Their article is also available online at <a href="http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=41&#038;ItemID=10387">ZNet</a>. I respond here to a single theme connecting a number of the points David and Pat make early on in their article. Later posts will deal with other&nbsp;points.</p>
<p>One preliminary. Above the ZNet version of their article, the Euston Manifesto is billed as being &#8216;by a group of left-leaning journalists and others who backed the Iraq war&#8217;. <em>Red Pepper</em> has it more accurately, indicating that <em>most</em> of the group behind the manifesto backed the&nbsp;war.</p>
<p>But if the manifesto is presented at ZNet with this error of fact, it is an error that is faithful to what David and Pat have written. For it is the impression the two of them convey in this remarkable opening passage:<br />
<blockquote>They [the manifesto&#8217;s authors] purport to defend the &#8216;authentic values&#8217; of the left against those who opposed the war on Iraq and oppose the continuing occupation, asserting that we operate double standards by supporting forces hostile to our&nbsp;values.</p>
<p>While this is certainly true of some of those who opposed the war, it is a travesty as a characterisation of the overwhelming majority of those in the anti-war movement. The values that the manifesto espouses are historically, and remain today, those that the democratic left has always advocated and struggled for, and the attempt to appropriate them by this group for their own purposes is deeply offensive to the wide spectrum of those on the left who have been working for them all their&nbsp;lives.</p>
<p>The Manifesto Group&#8217;s attempt to draw a line between those who support the values of the Enlightenment, of modernity, of the Age of Revolutions, against those who do not, or are prepared to compromise them, is wholly spurious. The suggestion that the differences that exist are over values, or indeed over whether there are universal values, is to overemphasise the influence of post-modern relativism and is a&nbsp;diversion.</p></blockquote>
<p>I call the passage remarkable not because of the way it turns the manifesto into a criticism of &#8216;those who opposed the war&#8217;&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;those who opposed the war, period. For although this is a mischaracterization, the claim is by now unremarkable, having been made rather often since the manifesto was published in mid-April. Against it I will merely say <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/05/platform_eleven.html">yet</a> <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/04/platform_six_by.html">one</a> <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/04/platform_five_b.html">more</a> <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/04/platform_one.html">time</a> that the text of the manifesto is perfectly clear on this matter&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;&#8216;The founding supporters of this statement took different views on the military intervention in Iraq, both for and against. We recognize that it was possible reasonably to disagree&#8230; etc&#8217;&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;and that several of its original signatories (including Michael Walzer) opposed the Iraq war. It continues to be a surprising piece of carelessness that neither the text itself nor this fact about the signatories gives pause to those criticizing the manifesto as a pro-war document. But it is a mischaracterization that has ceased to be&nbsp;remarkable.</p>
<p>What makes the above passage remarkable is its further claim that we of the Euston Manifesto Group have appropriated for our own purposes the values &#8216;the democratic left has always advocated and struggled for&#8217;&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;as if we regarded these values as exclusive to ourselves. This charge is based on precisely nothing. In the manifesto we treat the central values we want to see upheld as being the common inheritance of the left: speaking of them (in the Preamble) as the left&#8217;s &#8216;authentic values&#8217;; and (at B 15) as &#8216;the inheritance of us all&#8217;. We do, indeed, criticize others on the left for compromising these values; but when we do, we say, for example, &#8216;currents that have lately etc&#8217;, and &#8216;those left-liberal voices today&#8217;, and &#8216;much self-proclaimed progressive opinion&#8217;, and &#8216;too many on the Left&#8217;. None of these is a totalizing judgement. None of them either says or implies that supporters of the Euston Manifesto extend the criticisms to the entirety of the left save only ourselves. As I&#8217;ve put this <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/05/platform_ten.html">once before</a>, if the cap doesn&#8217;t fit, no need to wear it. The group who produced the Euston Manifesto is a tiny number of people, and the idea that we would lay exclusive claim to a commitment to values such as pluralist democracy, human rights, equality, freedom of opinion and so forth, is preposterous. People sometimes do, of course, make preposterous claims, but you need a bit of evidence to establish persuasively that that is what they have done if you think they have. In the present case Pat and David don&#8217;t even gesture towards any evidence, let alone provide&nbsp;it. </p>
<p>Note the symmetry here, however. Just as we are supposed to be claiming that it is &#8216;against those who opposed the war&#8217; (without any further qualification) that we defend the values we defend, so we are supposed to have tried to appropriate these values for ourselves in a way that would exclude the rest of the democratic left. The effect in the two cases is to turn a criticism directed against specific tendencies of argument and apologia, against some currents of opinion on the liberal-left, against documented cases of individual advocacy, into a blanket condemnation of opposition to the war as such and the entirety of the&nbsp;liberal-left.</p>
<p>Read on and you will see that pretty much the same thing is repeated here:<br />
<blockquote>The manifesto also accuses the anti-war movement of anti-Americanism and suggests that criticism of Israel&#8217;s racist treatment of the occupied Palestinian people is often a cover for anti-semitism. Once again, this misses the point. While there undoubtedly exists blanket anti-Americanism and some resurgence of anti-semitism, the real issue is not that of being pro or anti America or Israel, but recognition of the differences that exist within countries and the decision as to which internal forces the democratic left should support in terms of its&nbsp;values.</p></blockquote>
<p>You need perhaps to read that twice to see what its logical structure is. The passage tells you that the Eustonians miss the point because&#8230; there is another point. But this is an elementary logical error, since it&#8217;s possible for there to be more than one point at any given time. If, as David and Pat allow, blanket anti-Americanism does exist and there has been some resurgence of anti-Semitism, why wouldn&#8217;t it be to the point to combat both the one and the other? In its best traditions, the left has always stood against prejudice and bigotry, and there seems every reason for it to continue doing that. Countries do, of course, contain different internal forces, to be supported or opposed (as appropriate) by people on the democratic left. But that is <em>a</em> real issue, rather than <em>the</em> real issue, if the latter phrase is meant to convey that anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism have no serious purchase anywhere&nbsp;today.</p>
<p>And this really is the crux of the matter. On each of these points, David and Pat seemingly agree with supporters of the Euston Manifesto that the criticisms the manifesto makes have some application. They evidently think, though, that their application is marginal. And <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/05/platform_eleven.html">we don&#8217;t think it is</a>. We think there is significant evidence, which we have done our share over the last three years to assemble, for our view. But in any case <em>that</em>&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;a judgement about the spread, the extent, of certain contemporary themes of political argument&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;is something there can be serious discussion about. Nothing is gained towards such a discussion, however, by seeking to diminish the significance and extent of what we for our part criticize, via the suggestion that we present it as rampant, omnipresent&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;and then knocking this down. Nothing is gained by the several fictions that the Euston Manifesto stands against opposition to the Iraq war as such, or that it lays claim to democratic and universalist values to the exclusion of everyone else on the liberal-left, or (by implication) that we treat every criticism of Israel and of US foreign policy as instances of anti-Semitism and anti-Americanism&nbsp;respectively.</p>
<p>Finally, it is by the same impulse to diminish, that Pat and David say that we Eustonians &#8216;overemphasise the influence of post-modern relativism&#8217;&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;as if post-modern relativism exhausted the reasons for the differences over values that the manifesto talks about. We think that cultural relativism plays some part in these differences (see B3). But that is all we&#8217;ve ever said. We also point to other sources of them, like double standards and a simplistic&nbsp;&#8216;anti-imperialism&#8217;. </p>
<p>When people on the Western left make excuses for suicide terrorism, when others&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;some of them, writers of world renown&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;treat the contemporary US as comparable with Nazi Germany, when <em>some of those</em> who opposed the Iraq war cannot bring themselves to comprehend what considerations might have impelled others to support it, when it is not uncommon for the crimes committed by American soldiers at Abu Ghraib to be seen as overshadowing what happened in that same place during Saddam Hussein&#8217;s rule, when well-known left or liberal journalists tell you that democracy may not be for everybody or that an attachment to the legacy of the Enlightenment is a form of Islamophobia&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;this is not all due to cultural relativism, much less to postmodernism (though some of it may be). But it does betoken a difference of <em>some</em> kind over values, notwithstanding Pat and David&#8217;s view that the attempt to argue so is &#8216;wholly&nbsp;spurious&#8217;.</p>
<p><span class="note"><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/">Norman Geras</a> is Professor Emeritus of Government at the <a href="http://www.manchester.ac.uk/">University of&nbsp;Manchester</a></span></p>
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		<title>Platform Thirteen</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jun 2006 12:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eve Garrard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eve Garrard points out that Catherine Bennett is rather more sexist than the &#8220;blogger blokes&#8221; she criticises. In her piece on bloggers in the Guardian yesterday, Catherine Bennett is struck all of a heap by the fact that men will be boys, in the blogosphere as elsewhere. She finds them coarse, even gross, and trivial [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/06/platform_thirte.html">Eve Garrard</a> points out that Catherine Bennett is rather more sexist than the &#8220;blogger blokes&#8221; she criticises.</strong><br />
In her piece on bloggers in the Guardian yesterday, <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/Columnists/Column/0,,1787335,00.html">Catherine Bennett</a> is struck all of a heap by the fact that men will be boys, in the blogosphere as elsewhere. She finds them coarse, even gross, and trivial and lumpen, especially in their attitudes to women, which are sexist and patronizing and dismissive and leering. We all have to admit that there&#8217;s some truth in what she says, though it applies less to the political bloggers in whom she&#8217;s interested than to some of the commenters who infest their comments boxes (and also, incidentally, the comments boxes, immoderate and unmoderated, of <a href="http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/index.html">her own employer&#8217;s blog</a>). But as many many people have already pointed out, a propensity to draw on crude and dismissive stereotypes is not a peculiarly male characteristic, it&#8217;s a peculiarly human one&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;women do it too, and Ms Bennett&#8217;s own piece includes some fine examples of this unlovely&nbsp;trait.</p>
<p>She also claims to find support for her view of bloggers in the proceedings of the <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/05/talking_about_t.html">Euston Manifesto launch</a>, where, she complains, women were very little in evidence, and such women as were involved were present because the men allowed them to be. That is, having failed to find anything dismissive or neglectful of women in the <a href="http://eustonmanifesto.org/the-euston-manifesto/">manifesto itself</a> (because it isn&#8217;t there to be found), she decides that the women involved in the launch don&#8217;t actually count, they&#8217;re not genuine political participants. This view of the formidable women who, for example, chair the Euston Manifesto Group, design its material and jointly manage its website can be attributed in part, perhaps, to Ms Bennett&#8217;s ignorance; but she does seem to assume that women are either targets or tokens, either the victims of coarse masculine stereotyping or allowed to take part in important activities because the big boys sometimes give them permission to do so. If this picture of women in politics as passive little girls had been presented by someone other than Ms Bennett&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;had it been voiced, for example, by a MAN&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;it might very well have produced some exceptionally coarse and dismissive and deeply stereotyping responses from the women in&nbsp;question.</p>
<p><span class="note">Eve Garrard is a moral philosopher with a visiting position at the <a href="http://www.manchester.ac.uk/">University of&nbsp;Manchester</a></span></p>
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		<title>Platform Twelve</title>
		<link>http://eustonmanifesto.org/2006/05/31/platform-twelve/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 May 2006 15:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norman Geras</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Norman Geras tackles an unfortunately common approach to the text, as exemplified by David Clark in the New Statesman. A recent article critical of the Euston Manifesto is worth noticing for the principle of textual interpretation it makes use of: the principle, namely, that if the item before you&#8201;&#8212;&#8201;here, a document&#8201;&#8212;&#8201;doesn&#8217;t actually say what you [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/05/platform_twelve.html">Norman Geras tackles</a> an unfortunately common approach to the text, as exemplified by <a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/200605290005">David Clark in the <cite>New Statesman</cite></a>.</strong></p>
<p>A recent article critical of the <a href="http://eustonmanifesto.org/the-euston-manifesto/">Euston Manifesto</a> is worth noticing for the principle of textual interpretation it makes use of: the principle, namely, that if the item before you&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;here, a document&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;doesn&#8217;t actually say what you need it to say for your critical purposes, never mind, invent something. The article is by David Clark and appears in the current issue of the New Statesman (where you&#8217;ll get one free hit). <a href="http://www.newstatesman.com/200605290005">Clark</a> starts off in not unfriendly&nbsp;terms:</p>
<blockquote><p>There is&#8230; much in the manifesto with which to agree. Its belief in the intrinsic value of democracy reflects the left&#8217;s most enduring achievements. Its call for a humanitarian foreign policy is in the best traditions of internationalism. Even its scathing criticism of sections of the anti-war left for abandoning these values in favour of a vulgar anti-imperialism is substantially justified. Western guilt and the doctrine that my enemy&#8217;s enemy is my friend have produced some truly ugly&nbsp;sentiments.</p></blockquote>
<p>So what&#8217;s the &#8216;but&#8217;. The &#8216;but&#8217; is that like the early American neoconservatives we are leftists who condemn the stance of others on the left&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;&#8216;a journey that led most of them [the neocons] eventually to abandon the left for good&#8217;. And Clark goes on:<br />
<blockquote>The question is whether supporters of the Euston Manifesto are destined to follow a similar trajectory. There are good reasons for suspecting that they&nbsp;might.</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s the first step: our <em>imagined</em> future is a mark against us. The next step is the &#8216;irresistible logic&#8217; underlying a defence of liberal principles (glossed, this, by Clark in war-of-civilizations terms, though these aren&#8217;t the terms of the manifesto itself). For that defence &#8216;sits uneasily with a tough critique of [the West&#8217;s] economic and social structures, and the tension is hard to sustain&#8217;.<br />
<blockquote>The neoconservatives resolved this contradiction by dispensing with the critique, and there are clues in the Euston Manifesto that point the same&nbsp;way.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, you still with it? Our future is against us, us Eustonians, even though it hasn&#8217;t happened yet, and so is the logical tension Clark has proposed&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;though, strangely, the same tension is not held to threaten his own political future. Anyway, what are the clues that we Eustonians will go, in Clark&#8217;s imagined future, the way of the American neocons?&nbsp;These:</p>
<blockquote><p>There are vague and slightly ritualistic expressions of concern about social injustice and global inequality, but nowhere are they confronted with the kind of passion that is devoted to attacking those considered guilty of appeasing terrorism by criticising western policy&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;nor is any attempt made to identify their&nbsp;cause.</p>
<p>The Euston Manifesto sees the inequality generated by globalisation as some sort of inexplicable mishap; genuine progressives are clear that its origins lie in the uneven distribution of global power that underpins the free-market policies of the Washington consensus. The manifesto&#8217;s failure to grapple with this problem, or even acknowledge that it exists, robs it of whatever radical potential it may have&nbsp;contained.</p></blockquote>
<p>Got that? What we <em>do say</em> about social injustice and global inequality is ritualistic and it&#8217;s not passionate enough, according to David Clark, arbiter of passion levels. And what we <em>don&#8217;t say</em>, entirely passionless because we don&#8217;t say it&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;that global inequalities are &#8216;some sort of inexplicable mishap&#8217;&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;this suffices for him to know where the manifesto and its supporters are&nbsp;going.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s only one small drawback to the whole production: that the people who produced the Euston Manifesto think inequality and the maldistribution of power, whether nationally or globally, are merely contingent and inexplicable, with no structural basis in the economic relations of contemporary societies, is a fiction of Clark&#8217;s making. It comes from the <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/05/platform_nine.html">sucking it out of your thumb</a> school of textual analysis. Not a great&nbsp;school.</p>
<p><span class="note"><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/">Norman Geras</a> is Professor Emeritus of Government at the <a href="http://www.manchester.ac.uk/">University of&nbsp;Manchester</a></span></p>
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		<title>Platform Eleven</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 09:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norman Geras</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Norman Geras deals with the common misbelief that the Euston Manifesto is a &#8220;pro-war&#8221; document. This also appears, slightly abridged in today&#8217;s Guardian, and at Comment is Free. [The following appears, slightly abridged, in today&#8217;s Guardian, and at Comment is&#160;Free.] Was the Euston Manifesto written, as some wags now say, in a pub? Well, no. [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/05/platform_eleven.html">Norman Geras deals with</a> the common misbelief that the Euston Manifesto is a &#8220;pro-war&#8221; document.<br />
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<span class="note"><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/may/25/comment.politics1">This also appears</a>, slightly abridged in today&#8217;s <cite>Guardian</cite>, and at <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/may/25/comment.politics1">Comment is Free</a>.</strong></p>
<p>[The following appears, slightly abridged, in today&#8217;s <a href="http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour/story/0,,1782422,00.html">Guardian</a>, and at <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1782407,00.html">Comment is&nbsp;Free</a>.]</p>
<p>Was the Euston Manifesto written, as some wags now say, in a pub? Well, no. Would you want beer spilt over your manifesto? Would you want it smelling of smoke? The document was mooted&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;yes, mooted&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;in one pub and discussed in another. But it was written where things get written these days, on computers. And this, in a sense, is also where it came from. It came out of the blogosphere and into the&nbsp;world. </p>
<p>The manifesto, which has its <a href="http://eustonmanifesto.org/the-euston-manifesto/">public launch</a> today, states a commitment to certain general principles and identifies patterns of left-liberal argument that its supporters think fall short of those principles. So, we commend the democratic norms and institutions that typify the liberal democracies, despite their shortcomings, and criticize those on the left who make excuses for undemocratic movements and regimes. We affirm the importance of universal human rights values, rejecting the cultural relativist arguments and double standards by which these values get watered down or inconsistently applied. We express our opposition to terrorism and to indulgently &#8216;understanding&#8217; (where this means condoning) it because it is thought to be motivated by legitimate grievances. We state an attachment to a broad ideal of equality in all spheres, from gender relations to economic justice. The full text can be read at the <a href="http://eustonmanifesto.org/the-euston-manifesto/">manifesto&nbsp;website</a>.</p>
<p>The document stepped out of the virtual world into the real one and, my, didn&#8217;t people say hello. How do we feel about this, we &#8216;Eustonians&#8217;? Encouraged, no more. But also no less. Since it was published in April, it has generated an enormous volume of comment, from supportive, through critical, to jolly unfriendly. The abstract generality of its principles is one point of complaint. But we are unembarrassed by this. We make no claim to have formulated a programme for government; we hope merely to remind people on the liberal-left of the values they ought to be defending. A related point is the suggestion that this wish to remind is needless, since the manifesto&#8217;s criticisms don&#8217;t apply beyond a tiny section of the far left. We are just as relaxed on this second point as on the first. For the suggestion isn&#8217;t true, as has been amply documented on the&nbsp;blogs.</p>
<p>A third reaction is that of people who see the manifesto as pro-war&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;referring to the Iraq war. The short answer here is: no, it isn&#8217;t. This is stated as clearly as can be in the document itself, and it is a plain fact that a number of the original signatories opposed that&nbsp;war.</p>
<p>But a longer answer is worth spelling out for what it reveals about the &#8216;geography&#8217; of the left in relation to the Iraq war, and how this is simplified by some of the war&#8217;s opponents. Their story is of a three-way division within left-liberal opinion: comprising (1) those who supported the war, the &#8216;left hawks&#8217; or &#8216;muscular liberals&#8217;; (2) on the other side, but merely marginal - people in and around the Socialist Workers Party and Respect - a small body of anti-war opinion actually wanting America to come to grief in Iraq, supporting or making apology for the Iraqi so-called resistance and its murderous methods; (3) in between these, the largest sector of anti-war opinion, opposing the war for a combination of reasons, prominent amongst these the judgement that it was likely to turn out&nbsp;badly.</p>
<p>This mapping of the terrain underlies the mystification over how people who opposed the war could support the Euston Manifesto, and also the upset over criticisms directed at the left, when according to that map they apply to no more than a small band of souls on the far, and hard,&nbsp;left.</p>
<p>The real geography, however, has been different. Within the large &#8216;middle&#8217; sector of left-liberal opinion opposed to the war there has been, from the start, a differentiating subdivision&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;between those who opposed the war without being in denial about the considerations on the other side of the argument, and those who precisely have been in denial about them. This latter group extends well beyond the far&nbsp;left. </p>
<p>The signs of denial are abundant in the recent public life of the Western democracies: in the banners and slogans for that Saturday on 15 February 2003, from which one would never have known that Saddam&#8217;s Iraq was a foul tyranny; in the numbers of those on the left unwilling to allow, many indeed unable to comprehend, why others of us supported a regime-change war; in a constant stream of comment in liberal daily newspapers and weeklies of the left; in the excommunications issued and more recent calls for apology or recantation; and, most seriously of all, in the perceptible lack of interest in initiatives of solidarity with the forces in Iraq battling for a democratic transformation of their country, part of a wider lack of enthusiasm for the success of this enterprise given its origins in a war led by George W&nbsp;Bush.</p>
<p>That is the actual geography, with four regions, not three. A significant segment of the international left lost touch with some of its most important&nbsp;values.</p>
<p>Conceived in a small blogospheric space because of a hunch that there were people out there in the world who found this state of affairs troubling, the Euston Manifesto stepped out. And the hunch has been&nbsp;confirmed.</p>
<p><span class="note"><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/">Norman Geras</a> is Professor Emeritus of Government at the <a href="http://www.manchester.ac.uk/">University of&nbsp;Manchester</a></span></p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 May 2006 10:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norman Geras</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Norman Geras responds to Daniel Finkelstein&#8217;s Times article. Writing in this newspaper [three] weeks ago, Daniel Finkelstein gave the Euston Manifesto&#8201;&#8212;&#8201;a document calling for a progressive realignment and which I had a large part in drafting&#8201;&#8212;&#8201;a mixed review. &#8220;Really very good,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I agree with its sentiments; I think it well written and&#160;timely.&#8221; But [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/05/platform_ten.html">Norman Geras responds</a> to <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2151686,00.html">Daniel Finkelstein&#8217;s <cite>Times</cite> article</a>.</strong></p>
<p>Writing in this newspaper [three] weeks ago, <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,6-2151686,00.html">Daniel Finkelstein</a> gave the Euston Manifesto&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;a document calling for a progressive realignment and which I had a large part in drafting&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;a mixed review. &#8220;Really very good,&#8221; he said. &#8220;I agree with its sentiments; I think it well written and&nbsp;timely.&#8221;</p>
<p>But he also described it as &#8220;a gigantic waste of time and energy&#8221;. How so? Because, even though it challenges ideas widely held on the Left, the aim of those who produced it is &#8220;to save the Left from itself&#8221; and that isn&#8217;t worth the&nbsp;bother. </p>
<p>There are two things that may be said in response to this. The first is that even for someone who doesn&#8217;t regard the Left as the best place to be politically, a more rather than a less healthy Left is surely to be&nbsp;desired.</p>
<p>Finkelstein thinks the manifesto&#8217;s &#8220;clear statement of principles has been wasted on people who do not agree and never will&#8221;. But in politics you don&#8217;t know how many will agree with what you have to say until you&#8217;ve said it, and there are already signs that what we&#8217;ve said in the manifesto&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;holding firm to democratic principles and universal human rights, not making excuses for tyranny or terrorism, opposing anti-Americanism and not selling short the liberal tradition of freedom of ideas&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;has found a welcome from a section of left-liberal opinion. How far this will go remains to be seen, of course, but except from a very narrowly partisan view it has to be better for the wellbeing of the polity that those on the &#8220;other side&#8221; from you are attached to principles of a better rather than a worse&nbsp;kind.</p>
<p>Secondly, for those of us who haven&#8217;t given up on the Left, there is more reason still why we shouldn&#8217;t want to see democratic and universalist values made light of. We see these values as linked to others that have always been the special concern of the Left. No one else can be relied on to defend&nbsp;them.</p>
<p>Finkelstein writes that the &#8220;task of persuading the Left is also unnecessary&#8221;: for if the Euston Manifesto had been published by rightwingers, support for it on the Right would have been overwhelming. But that isn&#8217;t true of some of the manifesto&#8217;s positions&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;for example, its embrace of broadly egalitarian principles and of trade unions as the &#8220;bedrock organisations for the defence of workers&#8217; interests&#8221;, and its defence (in <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/04/platform_six_by.html">Shalom Lappin&#8217;s words</a>) of &#8220;the integrity of the public domain against the onslaught of privatisation and expropriation that has resulted from the dogmatic pursuit of neoliberal ideas&#8221;. Some conservative voices have, in welcoming the manifesto, expressed clear reservations about these aspects of&nbsp;it.</p>
<p>Still, Finkelstein is right about the people on the Left &#8220;who do not agree and never will&#8221;. For all those leftists who have responded positively to the manifesto there are at least as many who have been dismissive. What is interesting about much of this reaction is the themes it typically combines. In so far as the manifesto says anything true (so critics have said), it deals in well-meaning platitudes; and in so far as we are critical of others on the Left, our criticisms apply to only a small number of people on the very far Left. And yet despite this, the manifesto at once brought down upon itself a hostility from many that it is fair to describe as warm. Why? The document named nobody in particular in identifying some lamentable patterns of argument, evasion and apologia. If the cap doesn&#8217;t fit, no need to wear it. I would suggest that at least one of the reasons for the antipathy is that the cap fits rather more heads than just those of the Socialist Workers&nbsp;Party.</p>
<p>If this weren&#8217;t so, why is it now as common as it is to hear people on the liberal Left damning universal principles as &#8220;arrogant&#8221;, &#8220;imperialist&#8221; or (<i>sotto voce</i>) &#8220;Islamophobic&#8221;? The attachment to these principles&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;to democracy, freedom, equality&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;used to be standard on the Left. But in the opinion pages of the liberal press it has become routine to find journalists and others of would-be progressive outlook telling us that democracy, or liberalism, or Enlightenment values, all possibly suitable in the West, may not be so in other cultural contexts. The right to speak freely&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;entirely freely, barring only incitement to hatred or violence&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;is also frequently put in question in the face of religious sensibilities clamorously&nbsp;asserted.</p>
<p>&#8220;Understanding&#8221; noises about terrorist atrocities&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;in London or Madrid, but especially Tel Aviv and Haifa&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;as having their roots in poverty, oppression and injustice are equally common, though these voices are at a loss to explain why there have been movements in the past fighting these evils that didn&#8217;t resort to randomly blowing up civilians. Well-known writers&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;mature people, veterans of the Left&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;see their way to endorsing the Iraqi so-called resistance despite its murderous methods, or give out lightminded comparisons between the US under George Bush&#8217;s leadership and Nazi Germany. That there are such themes being aired by people on the broad liberal Left is a matter of record. It has been documented and criticised repeatedly. Presumably the newspapers carrying comment of this kind wouldn&#8217;t be doing so if such comment weren&#8217;t finding comfortable accommodation with their&nbsp;readers.</p>
<p>The Euston Manifesto is a response to these political tendencies, and as such is very much on target. That is why it has aroused the interest it has, hostile interest included. We are happy to be restating some important if indeed obvious truths, in not giving up on the future of the&nbsp;Left.</p>
<p><span class="note"><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/">Norman Geras</a> is Professor Emeritus of Government at the <a href="http://www.manchester.ac.uk/">University of&nbsp;Manchester</a></span></p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2006 12:50:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norman Geras</dc:creator>
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		<category><![CDATA[Geoffrey Wheatcroft]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Norman Geras questions the modesty of Geoffrey Wheatcroft&#8217;s modest proposal. &#8216;They should come out as imperialist and proud of it&#8217;, and &#8216;There is a progressive tradition of support for colonialism, which the Euston manifesto group could champion&#8217;&#8201;&#8212;&#8201;this is the way Wheatcroft&#8217;s article announces itself. The content doesn&#8217;t disappoint: he reminds readers that &#8216;Mill, Macaulay and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/05/platform_nine_a.html">Norman Geras questions</a> the modesty of Geoffrey Wheatcroft&#8217;s modest proposal.</strong><br />
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<p>&#8216;They should come out as imperialist and proud of it&#8217;, and &#8216;There is a progressive tradition of support for colonialism, which the Euston manifesto group could champion&#8217;&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;this is the way <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1771475,00.html">Wheatcroft&#8217;s article</a> announces itself. The content doesn&#8217;t disappoint: he reminds readers that &#8216;Mill, Macaulay and even Marx made approving noises about British rule in India&#8217; on the way to his intended conclusion: &#8216;Maybe the Euston group should be less nervous of &#8220;leftist colonisers&#8221; as a term of abuse.&#8217; It&#8217;s a <a href="http://www.olejarz.com/art/london2003/images/75%20Platform%209%203%5C4.jpg">nice piece</a> of <a href="http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizworld/places/platform.html">wizardry</a>, and &#8216;dialectical&#8217; at that. Wheatcroft turns the core principles of the Euston Manifesto upside&nbsp;down. </p>
<p>Many of the manifesto&#8217;s signatories supported the war in Iraq (though others of them didn&#8217;t), and before that military intervention in Afghanistan, and before that the same in Kosovo. On imperialist-type grounds? Why, no.<br />
<blockquote><a href="http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/imperial">Imperial</a>: &#8216;of, relating to, befitting, or suggestive of an empire or an&nbsp;emperor&#8217;. </p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperialism">Imperialism</a>: &#8216;a policy of extending control or authority over foreign entities as a means of acquisition and/or maintenance of&nbsp;empires.&#8217;</p></blockquote>
<p>The support for the aforementioned interventions by the people Wheatcroft is talking about was based on human rights and just war considerations, not on empire-building ones. Indeed, the very principles informing that support rule out support for imperialism, even a putatively &#8216;progressive&#8217; imperialism. Self-determination and political independence for all peoples is one of the basic rights we Eustonians defend.<br />
<blockquote>B.3 of <a href="http://eustonmanifesto.org/the-euston-manifesto/">the Euston Manifesto</a>: &#8216;We hold the fundamental human rights codified in the Universal Declaration to be precisely universal, and binding on all states and political movements, indeed on&nbsp;everyone.&#8217; </p>
<p>21 (3) of the <a href="http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html">Universal Declaration of Human Rights</a>: &#8216;The will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of&nbsp;government&#8230;&#8217; </p>
<p>Chapter 1, Article 1.2 of the <a href="http://www.un.org/aboutun/charter/chapter1.htm">UN Charter</a>: &#8216;&#8230; respect for the principle of equal rights and self-determination of&nbsp;peoples&#8217;.</p></blockquote>
<p>There&#8217;s a difference between an imperial project that seeks to build an empire ruled by a superpower, and an internationalist politics that regards human rights as universal and inviolable&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;and, beyond a certain threshold of human suffering, as rendering the claim to national sovereignty forfeit and justifying outside&nbsp;intervention.</p>
<p>For the rest, it&#8217;s true that we in the Euston Manifesto Group don&#8217;t begin, as some others on the left do, from the idea that everything America does is bad; and it&#8217;s true that we don&#8217;t regard being &#8216;anti-imperialist&#8217; in <em>this</em> sense as a sensible way of aligning oneself in the world; and we do think that pluralist democracies are better forms of polity than tyrannical and totalitarian ones, and that liberal political and social cultures are better than illiberal ones. If that all adds up to being imperialist, then we&#8217;re guilty as charged and indeed proud. But it doesn&#8217;t. So thanks, Geoffrey, but no&nbsp;thanks.</p>
<p><span class="note"><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/">Norman Geras</a> is Professor Emeritus of Government at the <a href="http://www.manchester.ac.uk/">University of&nbsp;Manchester</a></span></p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 May 2006 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Norman Geras</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Norman Geras dissects an objection to one of the manifesto&#8217;s elaborations. In this post I deal with objections to the Euston Manifesto directed at the paragraph in section C in which we criticize two statements from Amnesty International: The violation of basic human rights standards at Abu Ghraib, at Guantanamo, and by the practice of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2006/05/platform_nine.html">Norman Geras dissects an objection</a> to one of the manifesto&#8217;s elaborations.</strong><br />
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In this post I deal with objections to the <a href="http://eustonmanifesto.org/the-euston-manifesto/">Euston Manifesto</a> directed at the paragraph in section C in which we criticize two statements from Amnesty International:<br />
<blockquote>The violation of basic human rights standards at Abu Ghraib, at Guantanamo, and by the practice of &#8220;rendition&#8221;, must be roundly condemned for what it is: a departure from universal principles, for the establishment of which the democratic countries themselves, and in particular the United States of America, bear the greater part of the historical credit. But we reject the double standards by which too many on the Left today treat as the worst violations of human rights those perpetrated by the democracies, while being either silent or more muted about infractions that outstrip these by far. This tendency has reached the point that officials speaking for Amnesty International, an organization which commands enormous, worldwide respect because of its invaluable work over several decades, can now make grotesque public comparison of Guantanamo with the Gulag, can assert that the legislative measures taken by the US and other liberal democracies in the War on Terror constitute a greater attack on human rights principles and values than anything we have seen in the last 50 years, <em>and</em> be defended for doing so by certain left and liberal&nbsp;voices.</p>
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<p>Not because he puts the point especially cogently&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;there is no cogent way of putting it&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;but because what he says is representative of much of the negative comment the paragraph has attracted, I will respond to <a href="http://www.beautifulhorizons.net/weblog/2006/04/color_me_unimpr.html">Randy Paul&#8217;s version</a> of such comment. He says:<br />
<blockquote>First of all, they appear to be more concerned about AI&#8217;s abuse of metaphor rather than the <del>torture</del> abuse in Abu&nbsp;Ghraib.</p></blockquote>
<p>I break this into its two constituent&nbsp;parts.</p>
<p>(a) Paul speaks of the now notorious Irene Khan statement&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;that Guantanamo is &#8216;<a href="http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/ENGPOL100142005">the gulag [of] our times</a>&#8216;&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;as an abuse of metaphor. What it was as well as that was a piece of extreme rhetorical inflation, defended by <a href="http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/03/1337216">Khan</a> and <a href="http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,158626,00.html">other</a> Amnesty spokespeople as a way of trying to grab attention. This was worthy of a political propaganda department, and unworthy of the reputation which Amnesty has deservedly gained for accuracy and care. It diminishes the colossal scope of the horror and suffering that the actual Gulag produced. (See <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2005/06/amnestys_weak_m.html">1</a>, <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2005/06/amnesty_puzzle.html">2</a> and <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2005/06/attention_amnes.html">3</a> for the more detailed argument on this that I made at the&nbsp;time.)</p>
<p>(b) Perhaps because he has no compelling defence of Khan&#8217;s statement, Paul adds the second thing, which is worse than just being uncompelling. It is his suggestion that supporters of the manifesto might care more about an abuse of metaphor than about the crimes committed by US personnel at Abu Ghraib. This is a serious allegation, because of course to care more about an abuse of metaphor than about the abuse and torture of people, you&#8217;d have to be morally lost, to put it no more harshly than that. One might therefore expect Randy Paul to have something substantial to go on in support of his suggestion. What he has, however, is only the pair of words &#8216;appear to&#8217;: we of the Euston Manifesto &#8216;appear to be more concerned&#8217;, he says, about the one thing than the other. He has, in other words, sucked this out of his thumb. Perhaps he thinks that by criticizing a couple of statements from Amnesty&#8217;s officials we make ourselves opponents of its work. He can try to justify that assumption, but he will fail. <em>Especially</em> supporters of the organization (as, speaking only for myself, I have been for longer than I accurately know) might want to hold the organization to its own best standards when it appears to slide into an unbalanced political rhetoric that is current on parts of the&nbsp;liberal-left.</p>
<p>Paul continues:<br />
<blockquote>What I find downright offensive is this comment:<br />
<blockquote>The violation of basic human rights standards at Abu Ghraib, at Guantanamo, and by the practice of &#8220;rendition&#8221;, must be roundly condemned for what it is: a departure from universal&nbsp;principles[.]</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh please. Talk about defining deviancy down. It&#8217;s not a &#8220;departure from universal principles,&#8221; it&#8217;s a <em>crime against&nbsp;humanity</em>&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>That is criticism in the same thumb-sucking mode as before, trying to produce something out of nothing. Yes, the violation is a crime against humanity; and, being that, it is also a departure from the universal principles by which this category of crime is defined. If the authors of the manifesto had said <em>not</em> the one <em>but</em> the other, Paul would have had better than his thumb. But he doesn&#8217;t, and so he manufactures the notion that we&#8217;re &#8216;defining deviancy down&#8217;. But if he&#8217;s not prepared to give some serious evidence for his &#8216;not/but&#8217; interpretation, he might just as well go and sing it in&nbsp;E-flat.</p>
<p>It is a publicly known fact that the Euston Manifesto came out of a grouping that involved, among others, certain British bloggers. You want to know what we thought and think about Abu Ghraib vis-à-vis the offence of crimes against humanity? Or about torture? You can <a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/normblog/2004/05/the_shame_of_ab.html">take a look</a>:<br />
<blockquote>It is not to the point to say that the abuses [at Abu Ghraib] were not, either in nature or scale, comparable to the crimes of the Saddam Hussein regime. The practice of torture, just as such, is an unmixed and inexcusable evil; it is an abomination. Correspondingly, the prohibition of torture should be a moral absolute in any civilized national polity, as it has over time become within the law of the community of nations. Along with the prohibitions of other core crimes against humanity&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;genocide amongst them&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;the prohibition of torture comes under the doctrine of jus cogens: it is a peremptory norm binding all states, and from which none may opt out; it protects a right from which derogation is not allowed even in war or national emergency. The prohibition of torture is not a moral and legal restraint of the kind which it is permissible to transgress just provided the transgression is not too&nbsp;&#8216;extreme&#8217;.</p></blockquote>
<p>And you can <a href="http://www.democratiya.com/review.asp?reviews_id=13">take</a> a look. And you can take a <a href="http://normangeras.blogspot.com/2003_09_07_normangeras_archive.html#106335774026732496">look</a>. Yes, <a href="http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2004/05/07/standards.php">why</a> not <a href="http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2005/01/11/cheerleaders.php">take</a> a&nbsp;<a href="http://hurryupharry.bloghouse.net/archives/2005/12/16/bush_accepts_torture_ban.php">look</a>?</p>
<p>Or else you might just as well go and sing it in E-flat. This isn&#8217;t intellectually or morally serious criticism, it is ungrounded animus; and it typifies the negative comment there has been about that paragraph in the Euston&nbsp;Manifesto.</p>
<p><span class="note"><a href="http://normblog.typepad.com/">Norman Geras</a> is Professor Emeritus of Government at the <a href="http://www.manchester.ac.uk/">University of&nbsp;Manchester</a></span></p>
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		<link>http://eustonmanifesto.org/2006/05/02/platform-eight/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 May 2006 11:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Eve Garrard</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eve Garrard answers Natasha Walter&#8217;s feminist critique. A response to Natasha&#160;Walter In her piece on the Euston Manifesto, Natasha Walter raises some interesting objections to it and to the group with which it originated. The interest lies less in their content (much of which rests on a mistake about the nature of the document) than [...]]]></description>
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<h4>A response to Natasha&nbsp;Walter</h4>
<p>In her piece on the Euston Manifesto, <a href="http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/natasha_walter/2006/04/relations_between_the_sexes_in.html">Natasha Walter</a> raises some interesting objections to it and to the group with which it originated. The interest lies less in their content (much of which rests on a mistake about the nature of the document) than in the way in which she deploys them, and what she is trying to do with&nbsp;them.</p>
<p>Walter has two principal criticisms of the manifesto. The first and less substantial one is her complaint that there are too few women among those who produced the document. It&#8217;s true that there are considerably more men than women among us, but Walter herself answers her own objection when she acknowledges that it would be silly to expect new political groupings to &#8216;make a representative showing&#8217; before setting out their views. She&#8217;s quite right to say this, since such groups must initially be self-selecting or they&#8217;d never get started at all. The Eustonians would very much welcome more women becoming involved, and we hope they do; but short of creating all-women shortlists for co-signatories the main way to get more women involved in the first instance is going to be the same as the main way to get more people involved, period&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;putting our case as persuasively as we can and getting others to notice and engage with&nbsp;us.</p>
<p>Walter&#8217;s second and lengthier objection is to what she regards as a failure to advance the feminist cause within the manifesto itself. She thinks (a) that the document is not concerned enough about the under-representation of women in powerful positions in the UK, and their over-representation in low-paid jobs. And she also thinks (b) that it says too little about the West&#8217;s failure to help and protect women threatened with brutality or worse in their own countries. The first of these concerns involves a mistake about the nature of the <a href="http://eustonmanifesto.org/the-euston-manifesto/">Euston Manifesto</a>. She disregards what it explicitly says: it&#8217;s a broad statement of general principles rather than a presentation of specific policies (see section A paragraph 3). It calls for recognition of human rights (sections B3 and B4); it&#8217;s silent about violations of these rights in China, for example, or in Zimbabwe. This doesn&#8217;t show a lack of concern about rights violations in these particular countries; it shows that the document is, and is meant to be, operating at a more general level. The same is true for our concern about justice for women. Indeed gender equality is precisely one of the core left-liberal values which we want to protect against contemporary anti-Enlightenment discourse and the general cosying-up to fundamentalism which the manifesto explicitly rejects (sections B4 and B15; section C paragraph 1). A criticism which objects to the omission of specific policies on women&#8217;s rights, in a document which does not purport to make detailed policy recommendations about <em>any</em>  rights, is a criticism which is in fault-finding rather than fair-minded&nbsp;mode.</p>
<p>As to (b), Walter&#8217;s concerns are ones which of course all Eustonians will strongly agree with. Too damn right, we say&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;we support strong action by the West against human rights abuses, including those against women (section B10, section C passim). How can Walter have failed to notice how central this is to the whole document? Particular failures on the part of the UK government to provide this support have to be judged on their demerits, of course, but again this kind of case-by-case discussion is too specific to be appropriate for a general manifesto. However, the fact that such complaints against the government can plausibly be made by Walter does suggest that worse things are happening to women in cultures which practise genital mutilation or honour killings than the failure to get equal pay or full representation in the Conservative&nbsp;party. </p>
<p>Walter is right to say that many people on the liberal-left have become lethargic about feminism, and she&#8217;s right to mention the horror of honour killings in this context. But though the inequalities of pay between men and women in this country are often highly unjust and should be recognized and opposed as such, it does not belittle that injustice to acknowledge that the oppression of women which produces honour killings is seriously worse. It certainly is vital that people here should play their part in addressing domestic issues about women&#8217;s rights, but the exclusive focus on problems in the West is an example of those double standards which are one of the manifesto&#8217;s targets (section B3, section C paragraphs 6 and 8). Their effect, here as elsewhere, is to produce a curious flattening of the moral landscape, whereby honour killings, lower pay for women in the UK, genital mutilation, and the absence of representative numbers of women in senior civil service posts are all treated as being morally on a par, the occasion for equal moral outrage. The implication of this is that we have enough to do, morally speaking, about women&#8217;s rights here at home, so there&#8217;s no need for us to consider the failures of other cultures and polities in this respect. But this is simply to abandon the cause of women elsewhere. It seems unlikely that Walter really endorses this. But perhaps she has to pretend to, in order to focus her criticism about women&#8217;s rights where she is really determined to place it, namely here in the UK, and on the signatories of the&nbsp;manifesto.</p>
<p>That there is an element of pretence in Walter&#8217;s feminist critique of the manifesto is indicated by her silence about the neglect of women&#8217;s rights by other groups and individuals such as RESPECT, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, and Ken Livingstone&#8217;s friend Sheikh al-Qaradawi. (This has been forcefully pointed out by other members of the Euston Manifesto Group in the comments to Walter&#8217;s piece on the Comment is Free site). Yes, she is right to complain of a lethargy about feminism on the liberal-left; unfortunately she herself demonstrates a version of it notable for its selectivity. It&#8217;s hard not to believe that she focuses on a supposed neglect of women&#8217;s rights in the Euston Manifesto as a stick for beating a political group to which she objects on other, undisclosed, grounds. It would have been better and more constructive if she&#8217;d addressed the real source of her disagreement with the manifesto, whatever it is, rather than focusing on a non-existent failure to recognize the rights of&nbsp;women. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s an essential part of the Eustonian case that we should take the horrors perpetrated against women (and others) seriously. But we should do so with something a bit less narcissistic than conscience-stricken navel-gazing about Western inadequacies, and a bit more productive than writing <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,3604,1574481,00.html">indulgent articles</a> about&nbsp;Hizb-ut-Tahrir. </p>
<p>Finally, a minor but revealing point to note about Walter&#8217;s piece is its ostentatiously patronizing tone&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;&#8216;I couldn&#8217;t suppress a little smile&#8217;, &#8216;I told myself not to mock&#8217;, &#8216;they all have their hearts in the right place, I thought&#8217;. This is a pity&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;we&#8217;d all be better spending our time trying to sort out the truth on the topics in hand rather than engaging in these little positional&nbsp;manoeuvres.</p>
<p><span class="note">Eve Garrard is a moral philosopher with a visiting position at the <a href="http://www.manchester.ac.uk/">University of&nbsp;Manchester</a></span></p>
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